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Dear Prime Minister Cameron: You’re a little late…

Nobody Gets Email on Saturday Night: Last week this came to me, pretty much while Cairo was burning. This week, the news is on our own country’s problems. But it seems, we are NOW finding out, that Obama and his many arms of “community servicers” were behind the middle East AND the union strikes in Wisconsin.
 
It’s a letter to Prime Minister David Cameron, from a fellow Brit, and a more logical explanation of the problems of multiculturalism you will be hard pressed to find.
 
I included the full text here—it’s a bit long, but it’s worth it. 
 
(Thanks to amfortas)
 
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Dear Mr Cameron,
 
I am writing to you in connection with the speech you delivered at the Munich Security Conference last week since its subject matter pertains not just to the security of the United Kingdom and other Western European states but also to the long-term survival of the indigenous population of this country itself: the ultimate security question.
 
You begin your speech by seeking to reassure fellow member NATO states that despite the dire condition of the UK economy Britain will continue to meet the NATO 2% defence-spending target. In general terms that is good. However, the standard government line notwithstanding – Labour as well as Tory – Britain is not made safer nor is our national security enhanced by the presence of NATO troops in Afghanistan. The NATO presence in Afghanistan has, I believe, more to do with the nuclear ambitions of Iran.
 
Now, you begin your discussion of the terrorist threat in the UK by saying that some of these attacks are carried out ‘by our own citizens’ and that the perpetrators, Muslims, ‘are prepared to blow themselves up and kill their fellow citizens’ (my emphasis). But these Muslim terrorists do not regard me, us, as ‘their fellow citizens’. Indeed, they are correct: I am not one of ‘their fellow citizens’. Nor do I wish to be. Formally these people may have acquired a British passport but in what way can these people be regarded as ‘our own citizens’ when they live in parallel societies paid for by the white indigenous population and are at best indifferent to, and at worst murderously hostile, to the interests of the host indigenous population?
 
If I went to live in Munich and started to make demands of indigenous Germans that they adapt to my folkways, habits and customs and threatened to kill them, would Germans regard me as one of their own? I doubt it.
 
True, Europe has suffered from terrorism before the arrival of Al Qaeda and its imitators. The key difference is however that groups such as The Angry Brigade (England) IRA (Northern Ireland), The Red Brigades (Italy), Direct Action (France) and Baader-Meinhof & RAF (West Germany) were all home-grown groups. People who were active in the IRA belong to the tribes of the British Isles. Muslims have no such claim. They are alien.
 
Islamic terrorism would not be a problem in the United Kingdom had we maintained strict control over our borders and not permitted the huge influx of immigrants from Pakistan, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East, Turkey and Somalia. This was and remains a direct consequence of the cult of multiculturalism, a cult that preaches the poisonous view that, for example, sub-Saharan Africans have as much right to live in Britain as the white indigenous population.
 
You say that: ‘Europe needs to wake up to what is happening in our own countries’. Who exactly needs to wake up? Millions of people throughout Europe who over the last 40 years have seen their cities turned into Third World slums, who have witnessed, and suffered from, the relentless influx of immigrants, Muslim or otherwise, who have seen their institutions – police, armed forces, health services – corrupted by multiculturalism, who have seen their primary and secondary schools and universities turned into centres of politically correct indoctrination, where to be white, middle class, heterosexual and Christian is to suffer a constant stream of insults and barely concealed hatred, where, on the other hand, to be black or non-white is to enjoy special, protected-species status since non-whites are supposed to be bearers of some wonderful gift (referred to as diversity) and a source of great wisdom.
 
Those of us all over Europe need no lectures from you Mr Cameron on what has been happening. If they are not exceptionally wealthy and have no choice but to endure the daily grind of commuting into our large cities or may actually have to live there, white people are confronted every day of their lives with the consequences of ‘vibrant multicultural diversity’ and have been for a long time. Take it from me they hate it and where possible they will avoid it all costs (white flight). If they work in the public sector and have large mortgages they will endure the consequences of the cult in silence, confiding their fears only to a trusted few.
 
All over Europe an unaccountable class of political-functionaries has sought to impose the alien cult of multiculturalism on the white indigenous populations. Your call that we need to stand up to Muslims – and it is not just Muslims – comes far too late and is, in any case, thoroughly dishonest. The danger to the white indigenous population posed by mass non-white immigration has been evident for a long time and politicians of all parties have either encouraged this process of dispossession or have been too cowardly to speak out in public.
 
When, in his famous speech, Enoch Powell warned of what was to come he was mocked, derided and abandoned by people like you. The damage done to the indigenous population, its history, culture and future may now be irreversible. I pray to God that I am wrong; that it is not too late to save our nation.
 
Your attempts to distinguish between Islam as a religion of peace and Islamic terrorism are doomed to failure. Such is the overwhelming collectivist ethos of Islam and the complete absence of any respect for the dissenting individual that Muslims resident in this country who do not take part in acts of terrorism are not going to break ranks with the extremists. For Muslims the rule of law, free speech and liberal democracy are alien Western abstractions that mean very little. Given the choice between the rule of law, free speech and the civil society and Islam – in any shape or form – Muslims resident in this country will support the cause of Islam.
 
There is no love for the British: we are just a source of welfare payments and material provision that would be impossible in Pakistan and Somalia (the reason immigrants come here). You state the following: ‘It is vital that we make the distinction between religion on the one hand, and political ideology on the other. Time and again people equate the two’. Again, your attempt to separate religion from ideology is doomed to failure for the obvious reason that Islam, the ideology-religion, recognises no lay principle: it is all or nothing; it is Islam for the believers; Dhimmitude for the rest. Consequently, whatever action Western governments take to neutralise what they believe to be the purely political, ideological aspect of Islam, will always be interpreted as an attack on Islam as a whole. Indeed, such measures will be an attack on Islam as a whole since Islam does not recognise the division between state and civil society; the right of the individual to resist its collectivist ethos (just like communism incidentally).
 
The other factor that makes Islam a threat to the Christian West is the birth rate among Islamic immigrants resident in the West. The huge increase in the Muslim population throughout the West may well turn out to be the decisive factor that overwhelms the white indigenous population in their ancient lands, reducing them to a suppressed minority.
 
In all the discussions about rising food prices, metals, access to water and productive farm land no one wishes to identify the real problem: specifically the reckless and unsustainable breeding of Third World Populations either in the Third World itself or in the Third World estates that Third-Worlders have been allowed to create in the First World.
 
You cite what has happened on the streets of Tunis and Cairo as an example of the compatibility of Western values and Islam: ‘hundreds of thousands of people demanding the universal right to free elections and democracy’. Middle-class, English-speaking protesters might well press the right buttons when interviewed by some BBC reporter but the underlying problem of Arab states and Sub-Saharan Africa is massive, out-of-control and unsustainable population growth. This is the Malthusian nightmare writ large and it is being played out all over the Third World.
 
Egypt’s unemployed will remain unemployed (many of them are unemployable in any case). Hunger and hopelessness will gnaw at them. The results are predictable. Democracy and civil society are preposterous and irrelevant abstractions outside of Western Europe and will not feed people, certainly not in Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africa. Where populations spiral out of control, as they are doing in so many parts of the world, violence, exacerbated by religious/ideological fanaticism, is inevitable.
 
Concerning multiculturalism in the United Kingdom you state the following: Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and apart from the mainstream. We’ve failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We’ve even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values. For the avoidance of any doubt your repeated exculpatory use of “we” does not include me and, I suspect, millions of other Britons. Your use of ‘we’ refers to the last Labour government and the xenophiles who sought to impose the anti-white racist cult of multiculturalism on the indigenous population.
 
It is emphatically not the responsibility of the indigenous population ‘to provide a vision of a society to which they [immigrants] feel they want to belong’. If, according to you, the ‘we’ failed to provide this vision, then why did millions of Islamic immigrants join the first wave who could not find this ‘vision’? If they have no ‘vision of society to which they feel they want to belong’ why do they stay? Why not go home to Somalia, Waziristan and Sub-Saharan Africa? That these millions of immigrants have no ‘vision of society to which they feel they want to belong’ yet still stay in the Christian-infidel-infested wasteland of Britain suggests to me that their continued presence in Britain has everything to do with the fantastically generous welfare provision they receive (all the wives included) and absolutely nothing at all to do with any lack of ‘vision of society’.
 
You have been reported as saying that multiculturalism has failed. I see no clear statement of that in your speech at all. In fact, you claim that it is the indigenous population that has driven Muslims into their parallel societies. That you are still advocating some form of the cult is clear when you argue that ‘instead of encouraging people to live apart, we need a clear sense of shared national identity that is open to everyone’. National identity by its very nature is exclusive, partial and narrow. A national identity that is ‘open to everyone’ is not a national identity. National identity is determined by a combination of genetic, racial, cultural, psychological, geographical, linguistic and mental factors, tempered by the blows of history, by shared suffering in war and peace, by humiliation and glory, by the memory of those gone before. How can my English national identity be open to everyone? The answer is that it cannot. National identity that is open to everyone ceases to be a national identity; national identity that is open to everyone is just another way of promoting multiculturalism without using the m-word. In other words, it is a deceit, a ploy to disarm the critics of multiculturalism who have instinctively and rationally apprehended the cult’s national-identity-hating agenda all along.
 
As an Englishman who still values his national identity I have no desire at all to share it with others. Do Pakistanis, Indians, Chinese, Japanese and Zulus want to share their national identity with me? Of course not: and why should they? It is their exclusive property. Nor do immigrants wish to share their identity with white Europeans.
 
When, in 2008, he addressed a large Turkish audience in Cologne, the Turkish Prime Minister, Reccep Erdogan was quite clear by what he understood on the question of integration. He told his audience: ‘I understand the sensitivity you show towards the question of assimilation. Nobody can expect that you tolerate assimilation. Nobody can expect that you submit yourself to assimilation. Then assimilation is a crime against humanity.’ Erdogan’s vision of how he expects Turks to behave in Europe is just one of a number of reasons why a Muslim non-European state such as Turkey can have no place at all in the EU.
 
You argue that Muslims are attracted to extremism from a sense of not belonging. Again you claim that this is the failure of ‘the wider society’. You might like to ask yourself why indigenous Britons – ‘the wider society’ – do not wish to engage with Muslims.
 
Here are some of the reasons why indigenous, white Christian (or heathen) Britons want nothing to do with Islam: Suicide-homicide bombers; sharia; jihad; the obscene practice of female circumcision; so-called honour killings; stoning women to death; polygamy, the sexual grooming of white girls; extreme censorship; hatred of free speech; welfare parasitism; mosques; continuing, active terroristic hatred of white European host societies; and the cruel murders of Christians in the Middle East (and Turkey).
 
I am not convinced that you are serious about combating the damage done by multiculturalism.
 
From Dr. Frank Ellis

February 19, 2011 - Posted by | British, Islam, Middle East | ,

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  1. Just a quick one. I’m not sure what you mean by “injustices” which you refer to twice. People not being able to feed themselves for example? Or like someone getting sent to prison for a crime they didn’t commit? If you mean the former then you are quite wrong. There was a period where people could feed themselves, had shelter etc. There are recurrent crisis in capitalism because too much is produced not because there is too little. People actually go hungry because there is too much food. It sounds absurd and it is absurd but this is the mode of production we currently live under.

    I get the impression (I may be wrong) that “we are just observers” stems from “There will always, always be injustices” i.e nothing changes. I think the nation state has a part to play in this perspective – it’s cohersive nature, propaganda, and the reproduction of the existing ruling ideas.

    It’s difficult and challenging to act and not just observe but clearly it is possible, any popular social movement for example. Currently, Egypt and other parts of Africa and the Middle East. Sometimes it’s less spectacular and cannot achieve a great deal but it is still possible to act, write to a prisoner in solidarity, an anti-war march, a student occupation etc

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    Comment by tracktops | March 3, 2011 | Reply

  2. A small point, Tracktops: People have believed in one God or another since time immemorial. Different Gods, to be sure. But the ‘concept’ of Divinity is rooted deep in human consciousness.

    Asking if God exists at all is like asking if sight exists at all. We know that there is no such thing as ‘colour’ outside of our heads,as the sensation is simply (or complexly if you wish) a brain reaction to light frequencies impinging on sensitive rod and cone cells in our retina.

    But we see colour and it enables our humanity, even if in a small way. Belief in God enables our humanity too.

    We see things and they exist whether we know about light frequencies or cellular constructions and action potentials – or not. And let’s face it, many still do not and most that do have only known it for maybe a hundred years.

    Even the seeing is insufficient for some to believe.

    Do not dismiss either God or belief too quickly. Wear sunglasses by all means, when the sun is bright, but don’t poke yourself in the eyes with a sharp stick.

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    Comment by Amfortas | February 23, 2011 | Reply

    • Amfortas, that was…brilliant, thank you!

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      Comment by joyannaadams | February 23, 2011 | Reply

  3. I apologise for implying you’re stupid, you’re not. It was just frustration on my part, due to some silly comments and a lack of engagement to some points raised.

    I’m not sure if you mean your mother was the owner or manager but anyway I’m no particular fan of unions but I am in favour of workers having rights and the ability to defend themselves. It’s worth noting Noam Chomsky regards the US to have some of the worst labour laws of any developed industrial nation.

    This is a rather lengthy document against unions of all stripes including ‘revolutionary’ ones. I don’t expect you to read it but if you get the time or inclination you might find we agree on some of these things we’re talking about.

    http://en.internationalism.org/pamphlets/unions.htm

    In short, yes I have worked hard and for periods worked very long hours. Not through choice but having been forced to. I don’t want anyone to work long hours, it takes up most of ones time which is the same thing as life in general often including hours of traveling which rarely is considered when one talks about how many hours they work. Work under the current mode of production is a chore for most, repetitve, boring and dulls the mind as well as providing no outlet for creativity or control over what you produce or how it is produced be it in production or service.

    I would question your figure of 90% believing in God but even if this is correct it doesn’t mean God exists. It was quite common to believe in witches and evil spirits at one time, some probably still do. Maybe I’ll talk a bit about religion some other time.

    Yes, I have read something other than Marx. Though I haven’t read that book you mention. I’m not sure what you mean by “one dimensional”. That I believe in a materialist conception of history? Or that I just go on about communism or that my blog is a banal thing about sports wear. I could write about other things or ‘about myself’ but I tend to find those blogs rather narcissistic. I consciously chose what to write about.

    I don’t think I have a one sided view of life, there are many sides, people do many things, think different things etc I don’t regard myself as having any sacred truths or the perfect ideas etc and of course from time to time I have doubts about things. I’ve had ideas or ‘beliefs’ that have changed oevr time and experience for example.

    Just a note on class because it’s interesting that we seem to come from quite a similar class background. My grandfather was a small factory owner who went out of business due to the all powerful all seeing (much like God) ‘invisible hands’ of the market. As is the case with the petty bourgeois class it is a transient one. One which constantly goes back and forth between capitalist and proletariat. But gradually capitalism produces more and more proletarians. The working class gets bigger and bigger opposing it’s opposite, the minority capitalist class. Some years later my grandmother owned property, not a lot, some apartments I think. But wih the passing of time and generations as I have indicated, my mother has always been a wage-worker due to the march of capital. My father for a time was a manager and employed some staff but he too became a wage-worker. In fact during this period they had it relatively good, my mother didn’t have to work out of necessity. They could buy a house, go on a cheap holiday etc. But these periods don’t last. That time and generation has gone, in both the UK and US.
    All us ‘kids’ now are wage-workers, it’s only been because of credit that has allowed some to have a decent ‘standard of living’. All of us live in different parts of the country (well I don’t live in England anymore) but close by and we all find it difficult to find work, for half decent wages etc. It’s usually temporary/casual employment with little security.

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    Comment by tracktops | February 23, 2011 | Reply

    • Tracktops, this was a “nicer” commentary, and thanks for that.

      My mother was the owner of the printing company. She had about 30 workers under her.

      Sounds like you are experincing the same as many of the rest of us. BUT…we just have different views of solving the injustices.

      There will always, always, be injustices. There has been since mankind. I read a bit of your stuff, I’ll find the time to read it all…but as old as I am, I know, I’ve thought out my stances on things, as you have yours.

      The whole world is going beserk…right now, and we are just observers, aren’t we?

      At least, I am.

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      Comment by joyannaadams | February 23, 2011 | Reply

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  5. Marx…sounds good on paper, most 19-year olds read him in college and think it’s (Wow man…cool!) and then you grow up. Even at seventeen I thought it sounded neat. Revolution was in the air…the universities were filled with all the commuinst books, and yes I READ them all.

    I was a hippie at the time, and felt that the mean and evil company my mother ran was a horrible thing.

    Thank GOD I grew up.

    In reality, communism is as about as ridiculous as thinking Harry Potter is a real wizard. It does NOT work. Show us proof.

    It’s not the fault of “capitalism” that those poor suckers in Cairo are starving…please, you make us all laugh.Egypt had a dictator.

    Due to that evil capitalism, Tracktops, you are typing your words. Communism had nothing to do with it. Capitalism gave all those poor hungry people Facebook.

    Do you own your computer or is it public property? Would you prefer we all wore uniforms? Do you get it that people are allowed to CREATE in Capitlism? In Communism, they are mere serfs.

    You must separate Capitlism from “government.” It seems to me, you are thinking the two are one and the same.

    As for the people here losing their jobs, that is because the United States, we now have a Congress full of socialist/and closet communists. Our own govenrment has stifled creativity. We are falling into the evil system…BECAUSE, our now big CEO’s find it easier to deal with a communistic governments…I write about this in my piece today.

    And if the world prefers communism to Capitalsim…then, they should go back to living in huts, crapping in the woods, and we here in the US will be sure and send them postcards of our garden hoses.

    Tracktops, amfortas was a gentlemen to you. I know what he CAN do.

    Add some humor to your rebuttals. These are good, decent and very intelligent men.

    And if you prefer Marxism..then I suggest Cuba! it’s warm there, and I’m sure you would be happy.

    You can go there now–Good luck! Send us a postcard! And we’ll pretend we are all jealous!

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    Comment by joyannaadams | February 21, 2011 | Reply

    • I tell myself all Americans aren’t fucking stupid but it’s hard sometimes to convince myself of this fact. Leave your presumptions where they are, I’m not 19 or 17 or at college which is what you’re implying. That I’ve just ‘discovered Marx’ or whatever.

      Mean and evil don’t come into it. But your world outlook (or ideology, in the marxists sense) is conditioned no doubt by your mothers class position certainly, that of petty bourgeois or small capitalist.

      God had nothing to do with it, God doesn’t exist.

      All the other nonsense I’ve already replied to in earlier comments. You’ve just added some more ahistorical and very dishonest statements. It certainly doesn’t sound like you’ve read much Marx but even if you have it doesn’t mean you understood any of it.

      SignPainterGuy, I don’t know what “koolaid” is or what it refers to.

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      Comment by tracktops | February 22, 2011 | Reply

      • You think we’re stupid, we think you’re stupid, and I certainly do not think you’re young…I’m guessing you’re at least in your 30’s.

        I was raised in the “middle class.” My mother ran a small “union” printing shop, and the unions here in Missouri killed the “evil” manufacturing companies.

        In the end, the union people that worked for her, had a much wealthier life than she did. Trust me. She had to forgo her paycheck many years just to keep the company going. Between the union demands, and the government always breathing done her back, it was a miracle she kept it running as long as she did.

        We were the “working” class people. My mother worked harder than any of her employees. She was there before they arrived, and five hours after they left, and on weekends she worked 10 hours in the bindery. And she could NEVER afford a vacation.

        Have you ever worked that hard?

        As for God not exisiting, I have seen the “mathematical” proof that “something’ does, and over 90 percent of the planet believes in some kind of god.

        Have you read “the Bell Curve”? Have you read any other books besides Marx? I’d suggest you try the other side.

        You’re a trip tracktops. You’re one dimensional. Read my next column and complain some more.

        I’m very curious as to how you came to such a one sided view on life…go ahead, back up your beliefs with some meat. if you think I’m so stupid, enlightend me as to why.

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        Comment by joyannaadams | February 22, 2011

  6. SignPainterGuy,

    As you wish, I won’t ‘waste your time’ much longer. I would just like to reply to your last comment and that will be all.

    Your first paragraph is simply ahistorcial nonsense and I can’t be bothered to touch on it. What is more interesting is your perception that you’re “a life-long Christian and conservative”. You weren’t born eiither of these things, and hence you are not at all “life-long” in any respect. Ideas, opinions, beliefs are formed as a result of ones conditions and conditioning. What you could be asking is how did you become a Christian or conservative? Probably through your family, early childhood etc?

    Yes, Capitalism does enable the highest freedom, the highest freedom of exploitation. In fact it is the most free form of exploitation that has every existed. Much more than Feudalism for example and more barbaric (100 million dead in two world wars for eexample). It’s total idealism when you talk about “fairness” though. Probably because you are thinking in a nationalist perspective or even purely on an individual basis. Try asking the millions in dire poverty around the world about this “fairness”. You don’t even have to go that far, try asking the workers who just got sacked down the road or the ones who just lost their home across the street.

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    Comment by tracktops | February 21, 2011 | Reply

    • Were you born with the Marxist koolaid in your veins, or did a buddy say, “Try it, you`ll like it ?”

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  7. SignPainerGuy,

    What did you learn about Marx?

    I’m not sure what you mean by tried. There has only every been one proletarian World Revolution and that was in 1917 which degenerated from within and due to a series of defeats, namely in Germany.

    What you refer to being tried as ‘socialism/communism’ is actually state capitalism or social democracy (again, capitalism) probably. You can’t have communism nationally just as capitalism is a world system so too is communism as much as it is a ‘system’.

    Are you referring to Obama? He’s not even a ‘leftist’. But that’s how bizarre the interpretation of politics has become in America… everyone to the left of Mussolini is a communist apparently.

    This kind of perspective isn’t taken seriously anywhere outside the US, it’s either laughed at or just ignored because. It’s almost scary and is a distraction to the real existing conditions, truth and facts.

    I don’t know what you mean about ‘the left’ and Islam joining forces. This sounds like some kind of Hitler-esque conspiracy. I don’t even know what you mean by ‘the left’!

    If we take left to mean ‘for workers’ etc, there is no workers party in America, (and if there was I would consider it the left wing of capital anyway). I also consider Stalinists – the few that still exist, Trotskyists etc all the left wing of capital. Those that would or want to take state power, think they can reform capital or manage capital etc. None of this is possible, especially in our era when capitalism is in decline as a historical world system. I’ll leave it at that for now.

    Advertsising etc even indirectly is not the same thing as or equate to capitalism. Capitalism is a social relation. It is me, you or the many milllions upon millions being forced to sell our social labour power to the capitalist for our subsistence. Again, I’m being brief.

    joyannaadams, I’m not selling anything. It’s just a banal blog about some clothes I like to wear that might interest others who wear this kind of ‘style’ -being very loose indeed with the word style! I was very bored when I started it and in a couple of weeks I probably won’t post to it anymore.

    Marx didn’t want to be in charge of anything, let alone the whole of society! I suggest you actually read what he wrote for yourself, with a critical mind and find out what he did actually say.

    amfortas, you’re not worth replying to.

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    Comment by tracktops | February 20, 2011 | Reply

    • I am worth an Ozzie dollar which is worth 101 US Cents. I ain’t green either. Ignore me if you wish.

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      Comment by Amfortas | February 20, 2011 | Reply

    • Obviously you are convinced that Marx was brilliant and correct and nothing I can say or evidence I might point you to will change your mind . History tells that Marx, along with Stalin and Lenin instituted policies that caused the starvation and out-right murders of millions of innocent civilians, EACH ! The same is true of Mao, Il, and others !

      As a life-long christian and conservative, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that capitalism allows the greatest levels of freedom, entrepreneurship, fairness, and something that Marx NEVER accomplished, HAPPINESS !!

      If you want to follow Marxism, have at it ! Just know that I am not interested ! Don`t waste my time ! I know better !

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      Comment by SignPainterGuy | February 20, 2011 | Reply

  8. Tracktops, as a poor man I cannot claim to defend Capitaism. Marx had it easy, frankly. He didn’t have Feminism to deal with. Not that I am suggesting that one thing lead to another but all this expropriating one chaps labours for another chapesses benefit wasn’t touched upon by Mr Marx. Not only did he fail to predict the vast benefits to everyone of Capitalism but he failed to see who the real exploiters were. He is a tad out of date.

    Change your socks if you ever get around to walking a mile in someone elses moccawotsits.

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    Comment by amfortas | February 20, 2011 | Reply

    • “Change socks”, heh, and take a bath too !

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      Comment by SignPainterGuy | February 20, 2011 | Reply

  9. HA! A big capitalist making money selling shoes, and various running gear, complains about the very system making him enough money to buy a computer, advertise his stuff online, and yet, he does not see the connection.

    With Marx in charge, he would be Eating his shoes, and sucking on his socks.

    Come back again Tracktops–You’re fun!

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    Comment by joyannaadams | February 20, 2011 | Reply

  10. Amfortas, I did put lovely soft clean socks on this morning! I didn’t and still don’t think it’s worth my time (and that you’ll listen) to counter arguments to this racist, nationalist nonsense. I was just checking to the extent which the poster agreed with it and possibly why. I think people can’t be ‘converted’ to think how you may like them to think but they have to discover things for themselves and come to their own realisation. This is achieved through practical acivity. I would suggest reading some Marx for himself/herself to the rabid anti-communist above but this isn’t going to happen is it (currently). The Communist Manifesto and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific are good introductions to Marxism. Capital and The State and Revolution by Lenin will further deepen your understanding. All texts are available on-line at marxists.org.

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    Comment by tracktops | February 20, 2011 | Reply

    • I learned enough about Marx in fifth grade, that was in 1964 – `65, to understand quite well what a disastrous failure socialism / communism is and has been every time it`s tried ! Thinking anything will be different now that a new bunch in DC is at the helm just proves the utter stupidity of the left !

      The left`s joining forces with islam now just means that islam will eat the left last !

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      Comment by SignPainterGuy | February 20, 2011 | Reply

    • BTW, advertising the sale of a clothing line is CAPITALISM ….that is a flashing neon sign that says HYPOCRACY on your part !!

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  11. Tracktops, thank you for such a well balanced and superbly argued rebuttal. I must sit at your feet and learn the wonders of your wisdom. Hah! I hope you put clean socks on. There’s a vid on You Tube that shows you how.

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    Comment by Amfortas | February 20, 2011 | Reply

  12. What a crock of shit. You haven’t fallen for this manic, racist nationalism have you? The enemy of the working class is capital not Muslims.

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    Comment by tracktops | February 19, 2011 | Reply

    • Unions, socialists, communists and muslims in some cases have fooled many in the working class, precisely union members, into believing that capitalism is the enemy of the working class , Unions, socialists, communists and muslims lie !

      The truth of the matter is, capitalism is the best friend of anyone who wants to be free to make a living !

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      Comment by SignPainterGuy | February 20, 2011 | Reply


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