Nobody Remembers Persons of Low Circumstances
Nobody Remembers
For those of you who have been following the blog, you may have noticed the, always contentious arguments of amfortas and I. He being a proud British subject, loyal to the Queen, and me being the cantankerous American, loyal to my country, and my ancestors.  We have often argued our case, neither one coming out the winner, although, we both give it a good try.
Sometimes I feel as if the revolution is still being fought. Â And yes, I am proud that Americans won against the great British empire, but amfortas doesn’t see it that way. To him, we were recalcitrant children—-spoiled and ungrateful brats.
But I had to laugh today, as I see, the attitude of the good amfortas was fostered not in this century, but in way back in 1705. Surprisingly, (or not) the attitudes of the good British citizen has not changed.
I was just reading about when I came upon Robert Beverley, an early historian of Virginia, who was asked by an English book dealer in 1703, to appraise the British Empire in America. Here’s some of what he had to say:
I can easily imagine that this, as well as all the rest of the plantations was for the most part  first peopled by persons of low circumstances and by such as were willing to seek their fortunes in a foreign country. For its not likely that any man of a plentiful estate should voluntarily abandon a happy certainty to roam after imaginary adventures in an New World.
He goes on to explain that first, just the single men came over. And since it was such a hardship to get a woman that could “carry sufficient certificate of their modesty and good behavior” they ended up buying a wife at the price of 1oo pounds and hoping for a bargain.
And then he adds an explanation as to why the rather less than desirable British stock came over.
Thus in the time of the Rebellion in England, several good Cavalier families were thither with their effects to escape the tyranny of the usurper. And so again, upon the Restoration, many people of the opposite party took refuge there, to shelter themselves from the King’s resentments.
So, as it sometimes happens in every country more often than not, the King is rotten, and the poor citizens flee. America was a nation founded by people of “low circumstances” and I think that’s pretty much how amfortas sees me, as a commoner, lowly person on the lower end of caste, while he, on the other hand, is born of the higher bred of Royalty.
And, so…speaking from a DNA point of view, he is absolutely right.
He is proud of his British superiority, and well he should be. But I contend that some very great persons of very low circumstances, took the heritage that they got from the motherland, and made a glorious nation…although it is sinking fast.
And for that, the British motherland should be very proud of their ‘offspring.’Â Are they? I really don’t think so. 
Right now, both mother nation and her disobedient offspring are on the brink. While America has committed her amount of sins, Great Britain doesn’t have a clean slate either.
And so we remain, at a standstill. No doubt, we will carry the argument to our graves. Pointless, but never boring.
One of the complaints about John Adams, was that after he spent so many years in England as ambassador, when he came back to his own country, he was convinced that people WANTED to have the pomp and circumstance of Kings and Nobles, etc, and they made fun of him in Congress when he, as Vice President, wanted to call the office of the Presidency “His Royal Highness ” and other high sounding names.
The Congress mocked him, and put him in his place, thank God. All those years spent in Paris and England rubbed off. John was always trying to figure out political systems, and no doubt, since he was born in America, the whole European aristocratic system gave him lots to think about.
It might please amfortas to know that.
And so the fight goes on still: Should there always be a ruling class that knows better how to rule people? Or should, the persons of low circumstances, take back their lives from the aristocrats and oligarchs of the world?
And since there are no more free lands to run to, where do the lower circumstances go, and is it even possible for western civilization to join together once again to fight the upcoming war between Islam and Christianity?
Just wondering. Nobody Thinks, if we want to survive we must.
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I am a nobody. If the different classes of America were color-coded, I would be in the yucky brown, one rung up from the bottom. I grew up in Naples, Florida and live near the Mississippi River now with my husband and two dogs. I am part of the slowly disappearing middle-class. I was a musician most of my life: drummer/singer/keyboards—but I retired before the plastic surgery flu hit. I have no degrees, which could be a good thing…depending on how you view our educational system. I do have three patents…but that really doesn’t make me a somebody. The one thing that is constant in my life is my OPINIONS, which i have more than perhaps even Carl Sagan could have imagined…mostly political. (yes…my ancestors were crabby buggers)
Hopefully other nobody’s will put their opinions on my site. But, if you happen to be a somebody, you’re more than welcomed to help out.
It’s my Nobody Opinion that Nobody’s Perfect, and Nobody Cares, that Nobody Knows why Nobody Wins, and when that happens, Nobody Wonders, why Nobody Flashes, why Nobody’s Fooled, but then Nobody remembers that Nobody ALWAYS Reports the truth.
You can email me at joyanna_adams@yahoo.com
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Finally, a picture of your friendly and beautiful face on your blog where it belongs! Peace out.
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Thanks Dandapani! From on, I promise, I’ll always post some sort of picture…
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My dearest friend in America (indeed, anywhere else?) takes me to task with her gentle and very fair criticisms of my criticisms of the Revolution. And has the ‘justice’ in her to show me more and more of the history of the times. And of the crude folk of the time, on both sides of the Pond, who do not seem to have changed all that much.
I cannot deny my Regal heritage, albeit being at a long remove from the current Royal Family. Everyone in England (and the additional members of the United Kingdom) have a place on the list of succession to the Throne. Indeed, every sound Englishman refers to his own WC as the throne. It is very likely, Joyanna, dearest heart, that you are on that list too. Contemplate that next time you visit the ‘bathroom’. 🙂
But I chose to live out my life in another country which also started out with people of quite clearly ‘Low Circumstance’. Oz was started by Convicts and Military chaps. The military back then were generally very rough and ready sorts with little in the way of finer spirit. Fortunately they were commanded by what could pass for Great men of their day. None ‘ran away’ from the societal conflicts of Britain. Here was a Prison like no other in history. Barely anyone was a ‘free man’ until he had earned it through his labour and reformed character. Those who did neither were dead in pretty quick time.
We Oztrailians were never the favourite sons of Empire, as the American Colonies were. No one here had their own Members of Parliament looking after their interests like the American Colonial Oligarchs had. Our land was not considered a ‘Paradise’ by the King. We paid our taxes at a far higher rate than your business people did. No-one here formented Revolution.
Yet we are Independent. We became the wealthiest per capita nation in the world long before America did. We did it peacefully. We stole nothing from Home. And, it has to be said, the Family back home were generous as we increasingly deserved their love and support. They invested in our growing society what would have been invested in yours.
But I am not wanting to play ‘Mine’s bigger than yours’. You know that my attitude has never been about bigger OR ‘better’. My attitude is one of sadness, not deprivation. It is the sadness of a Father whose son has stolen the family jewels – that he would have inherited – and squandered them.
It is the sadness of seeing a history unfolding from the many mistakes that people and nations make. Some of the mistakes – on both sides of the Pond, then and now – have huge consequences that increase in effect over time.
I am sad to see the waste of an Empire that united so many disparate Peoples, across the globe. America could have inherited the leadership of a far more united world. Not a perfect world. Not a world devoid of conflict and imbalance. But one well on its way in those directions. But America compounded its ‘sins’ by forcing the dissolution of the British Empire only in order to create its own. How is that working out, by the way?
You and I will argue. We will offer points in opposition. But I will love you always just as I love that errant son, America, who ran off with the Future. You are my good friend.
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LOL! So, if we had not broken off…I wonder…would their have been Tom Edison’s light bulbs? Wright Brothers Planes? Apple’s Computers? Henry Ford’s Car? America has given much, if not MORE than England…in her history to the world. But to be fair, she is a lot bigger. Would England have survived Hitler? Maybe the egg had to break to make a better omelets….. Hey, anybody else can join in here……
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I suspect there would have been an Edison et al. Yes America has produced many fine minds and many inventions, discoveries and so on. And it can be claimed it has given more than most to the world. But then a Chinese Factory can claim that too if ‘more’ is all that counts. But Britain has produced more ‘per capita’ than most. And the Industrial Revolution so hard started and won in Britain did give all who follow a good head of steam. You even got the steam train from we English.
Would England have survived Hitler? That is a good one, Joy. No it would not.
Were it not for the rest of the Commonwealth of English speaking nations, that Empire I spoke of, including America, coming to Britain’s aid, and incidentally Mankind’s aid, it would have been the dark ages again for all.
But further Joy, would Hitler have got as far as he did and destroyed as much as he did if America had not waited so long to join the fight. From some people’s view it was a scandalous delay. Further still COULD America have joined the fight if Britain had fallen? I doubt it very much. It is not for nothing that Britain was called an ‘Aircraft Carrier’ by Americans during the war.
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The citizens of America, after WWI did not want to send boys over to die. …WWI took too many young men. They had to trick us to get us over there, or so I’ve read.
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