Obama’s Father: Fought in WWII–as a 3-year old!
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Here’s a very good email I just got. The evidence is overwhelming…all you have to do is look around. Obama was not qualified to even run for President in 2008, and he’s not qualified, according to our Constitution to run now. Will Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan even bring up this point?
Don’t count on it.
(Thanks to Tom Beebe)
4 Simple Questions
1.) Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama “birth certificate” state he is “African-American” when the term wasn’t even used at that time?
2) The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa.” This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate.”
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya
3) On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “kauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
4) Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WWII. I’m not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama’s “birth certificate” says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he was born. That should have put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936–if my math holds. (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book–one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals–to verify that WWII was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of WWII his father wouldn’t have been more than 9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes (still qualifies as a “liar”)?
Tally: Mixed up Dates=0 Lying=24
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Re “Opinion blog.”
You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. The facts exist independently of you. They are, in short, that there is NO evidence that Obama was born anywhere else than in the USA (The “born-in-Kenya” myth is completely loony. Only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya that year, and the Kenyan government says that it investigated whether or not Obama was born there, and found that he was not born there). There is evidence, the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials in Hawaii of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 that Obama was born IN HAWAII.
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Well.. …may others have said that they have “facts” too. You have settled your own mind. I have not settled MINE until I see all the facts. You…only want to see one side, and prove that you are not open-minded enough to even read the other sides of the issues. What can I say to that? Not much.
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If you believe Corsi, you’d be willing to buy the Brooklyn Bridge. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not believe Corsi. And neither did the CONSERVATIVE secretary of state of Arizona, who asked Hawaii to confirm that it has Obama’s birth certificate on file and that it sent copies of it to him and that the facts on Obama’s published birth certificate are accurate. Hawaii did, and the secretary of state of Arizona accepted that as evidence that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii—and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.
For Obama to have been born outside of the USA, Obama’s parents would have had to have:
(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya); (And the government of Kenya now says that it has investigated, and that it never happened.)
(2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport (which would have had to have happened in Kenya or any other country, and would be easy to find) and slipped the child past the US immigration officials who check documents or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed;
(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);
(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;
(5) got three Republican officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii.
ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.
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LOL! You ARE persistant. I have given you my reasons, and I considered them well thought out. If you have not read the book, or you have not look at the video’s or any of the other sides of the arguments….then you are not looking at both sides of the issue. HAVE you read Corsi’s book? He gives about 53 reasons why the birth cirtificate is not real. And I’ve heard others explain their reasonings as well…on the radio…in print. There were arugments on both sides. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck..they made their decision in about the same time you did…ten seconds.LOL! You know…maybe you should start a blog…and get like minded people who agree with you say so! Some people even say he was born in Canada when his mother was there. Who knows where he was born? The only thing that matters is that he did not fill the requirements of being able to run for President. BOTH parants must be citizens. Clearly, his father wasn’t. And I will ask you ONE MORE TIME…if he is not guilty, why did he spend millions of his own dollars covering up the whole issue?
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Re: ” Some people even say he was born in Canada when his mother was there. ”
IF Obama were born in Canada, there would be records showing that he was born in Canada.
Re “Both parents must be citizens.”
Who told you that? It is wrong. The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the PLACE of birth, which in Obama’s case is the USA, in Hawaii (as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Want to see more authorities? I can post about 25 or so including the seven state courts that recently ruled that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen—and NONE ruled that he wasn’t or that two citizen parents are required (not even Minor v Happersett).
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Okay…I’ll have to go and find where I was reading all this stuff. You are right in which the Constitution says he must be born a natural born citizen. BUT..you refuse to answer my ongoing question to you, therefore, you keep repeating the same old argument. Since YOU will not give the other side, any of your time, why do you persist? I am now going to read Cori’s book. Then I will try to find the time to read your arguments. I’m not sure there is much Glenn Beck has online about the matter except..He thinks birthers are nuts. That’s an opinion. They have opinions. BUT…I feel 90 percent sure, that I will only become more deeply convinced that Obama was not a citizen. All these experts you put your money on…have not spent years doing research on it. First off…they have their own time…to them it’s not worth exploriing. If you are any kind of an intellectual you will READ Corsi’s book and get back to me, and then support your claims with your own research to show everyone why he “lied.” As I remember, this was an email sent to me that I post on weekends. My blog is an ‘opinion’ blog. Did you notice the words “Nobody’s Opinion.” ? You have yours, I have mine…but you are going to have to convince me with more than just “he said it, and she said it, therefore it’s true because they never lie.” But here’s my point: you refuse to even answer the questions I ask…like why did he spend all that money to hide his records? Here it is in caps: WHY DID HE SPEND OVER A MILLION HIDING HIS RECORDS? one more time WHY DID HE SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS HIDING HIS RECORDS IF HE HAD NOTHING TO HIDE? I ask…for you opinion. If you have any facts…go ahead and present them. Please keep them to the last questions, you are repeating your arguments. AS for continuing this arugment…I am a fair person. Let’s both read Corsi’s book…and then we can banter more. If you refuse, than as far as I’m concerned…I win. What have you got to lose? You just mght learn how easily the American public can be fooled.
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The fact that Corsi, who “swiftboated” Kerry and who wrote books attacking Obama even before the question of whether or not the birth certificate was forged believes that the birth certificate is forged is not convincing evidence that it is forged, much less that the officials in Hawaii forged it. After all, Obama’s short form birth certificate (which BTW is the official birth certificate of Hawaii) was issued in 2007 when the REPUBLICANS were in charge. Both the Republicans (including the former Republican governor) and the Democrats have said that the facts on Obama’s birth certificate are accurate, and the fact that Hawaii issued a birth certificate for Obama back in 1961 is further confirmed by the birth notices that were sent to the newspapers of Hawaii by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961. Were the officials of Hawaii (which was under a Republican governor in 1961) part of the plot in those days???
When the CONSERVATIVE Republican secretary of state of Arizona asks Hawaii to confirm that it has a birth certificate for Obama and to confirm the facts on it, and Hawaii does, and the CONSERVATIVE Republican secretary of state of Arizona accepts that confirmation as a fact and rules that Obama will be on the ballot in November, then you know that he does not believe Corsi and the birther “experts”—and does believe the officials in Hawaii.
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Gee…it comes down to…do you trust the people in Hawaii? Do you trust Obama to not LIE..when he has done so, soooooooooo many times? He said he sat in the Church of Reverend Wright for over 20 years, and uh…didn’t hear anything. Right. He said he didn’t know Blago, yet there are pictures all over the Internet with them together at different functions. And once again…Why spend SO much money hiding your records if you are not guilty? Tell me—why spend millions on it, if nothing is suspected? It didn’t come out until after the election that Obama went to Kenya to help his communist Cousin get elected. ANd he was a Senator at the time. Cleary illegal. As for trusting Republicans…I’m as independent as my forefathers. “Independence forever” said John on the day he died. We have an awful lot of corrupt politicians on both sides. Just because someone is a “Republican” doesn’t mean I think he is trustworthy. And that includes Mayor Bloomberg in New York, and people in Hawaii, or Arizona. Look at John McCain. He’s a republican, yet damaged our electoral system immensely with the McCain- Feingold act. They all have a vested interest in protecting the very “office” of the Presidency. The Bushes have talked about that endlessly. If it were up to me, we’d knock out that huge power that the office has accumulated…it’s almost a kingship now. BOTH Bush, and Obama grabbed authority that was not constitutional. So, it’s being protected. by BOTH parties. And so the “I think that birth certificate is real” is just another way of saying…”let’s not go there.” Did these people do the extensive research that Corsi did? Nope. Now, back to Corsi. Did you watch the video? I have listened to many experts that say that document was forged. Most of that testimony is on Youtube, and once again…he has done extensive research on it. I trust him more than some “official” GOP in Hawaii or Arizona. But, we all have our ways of judging. If you say you believe the Hawaii experts, than that’s your opinion, and I can respect it.It’s not mine. Either way, none of this matters now, because our Congress deems it unworthy of even discussing. So…too bad for us all.
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It is clear that rational conservatives do not believe the “birth certificate was forged” claims. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not.
And the conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm specified facts on Obama’s birth certificate. Hawaii did, stating that it compared the image of Obama’s birth certificate with the file copy (which is an additional confirmation that there was a file copy BTW) and that Obama was born there and that the facts match. The secretary of state of Arizona accepted this confirmation and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November. This indicates that he does not believe the claims that the birth certificate is forged (including those of Sheriff Joe) and that he does believe the officials in Hawaii.
Hawaii is thousands of miles from the nearest foreign country, and it is TEN thousand miles from Kenya (where some birthers think that Obama was born). And the idea that Obama’s parents had that kind of money or would spend it on a trip to Kenya (or outside the USA at all) while Obama’s mother was late in pregnancy (and such trips were very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya), is nutty in the extreme.
The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama’s mother traveled outside the USA in 1961, and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama’s relatives both say that he was certainly not born there. And the Hawaii birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
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Okay…I have been following Sheriff Joe’s and Corsi’s research..but lets go with your statement. Say he was “born” in Hawaii. To be President, your father and mother must be American citizens. His father was not a citizen. As for Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, and many others…they would never make a big deal out of it. They care more about getting rid of him…they don’t believe in conspiracy’s of ANY kind. Unless it’s Soros. (Beck) I think it’s important to listen to ALL sides. Ann Coulter believes in gay marriage, which is not a conservative view. And you know, to say that you are not “rational” if you think that Obama could have faked his birth cirtificate, is just silly. I can just as easily say you are not “rational” for NOT exploring all accounts of any subject…no matter how small and ‘unimportant” it seems. Just because Corsi is not ‘famous” doesn’t mean he’s unreliable. He actaully went all over Africa, and Hawaii and researched it all. So has Sheriff Joe of Arizona, and he has come up with some pretty amazing results. They bothmake a lot of sense to me. Ann and Glenn have put no such effort into it. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, have “rationally” concluded to even go after that line of thinking would NOT be rational…and they are right. NOT because it’s not true, but because it would take up time where more important things are at issue. Obama is safe. Too many “conservatives” AND “liberals” think too much of the Office of the Presidency to even touch the subject. I sort of take the sides with the libertarians. Or as John Adams once said, “A government of laws and not of men.” LOL! Think of the huge beehive we’d opened up if our politicians abided by the “laws” of the rest of us! They have broken so many constitutional laws that the “birth cirtificate” issue seems small potatoes in comparrison. You say they didn’t have that kind of money?Both Obama AND his father went to Harvard. Plane tickets…back then, were not that expensive. NOW they are. All that stuff you are quoting, has another side refuting it. I’ll try and get you the name of Corsi’s book. Right now, it’s all a matter of opinion. Thanks again!
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Re: “In 1961 people of color were called “Negroes.” So how can the Obama “birth certificate” state he is “African-American” when the term wasn’t even used at that time?”
ANSWER: First it does not say “African-American.” It says “African.” Only African.
The explanation is simple. In Hawaii you were allowed to use any word you wanted to describe your race. There was no checklist, and no one stood over you saying what you had to enter. There are entries in Hawaii of people listing their race as “American.” So you were allowed to use any word you wanted.
And what was the word that African exchange students commonly used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: African.
Re: 2. “… Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known then as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.”
Answer. You are out of date with that name. Kenya stopped being called the British East African Protectorate in 1920. In that year it was renamed. What was the name? THE KENYA COLONY.
In short, it was called Kenya (Kenya short for “The Kenya Colony”), and it was in East Africa, so the entry Kenya, East Africa is correct.
Re: “3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. ”
Answer: You are referring to two other hospitals. But, Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital DID exist in 1961.
How do we know? Well, on WND’s site there are birth certificates for the Nordkye Twins, born one day after Obama in the same hospital, and what is the name of the hospital on their birth certificates? Answer: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
Oh, and Obama’s book Dreams from My Father clearly says that his GRANDfather fought in WWII, not his father.
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Hmmmm….different people find different facts…not surprising in this world of “who do you believe?” I always consider the source. WND is a good source, but I do believe they concur with Jerome Corsi’s research done on the birth certificate. There are too many issues found with the birth certificate, even if that issue needs verification. Both Obama himself, and his wife have said Kenya is his “home.” As have many cousins, etc. Pro’s and Cons are everywhere, we each choose based on our own insights, and to all my insight, I have no idea where he was born…but I do know he lies a lot., and has spent millions trying to cover up ALL his records. If there was nothing to hide, he wouldn’t have done that. Thanks!
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Obama did not hide his birth certificate. He showed it. He was the first presidential candidate to publish his birth certificate, showing the official short-form birth certificate back in 2008 and the long-form birth certificate in April 2011.
The facts on Obama’s birth certificate, and that the is a birth certificate for him in the files and that the short form and the long form were in fact sent to him were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii of both parties.
They are further confirmed by the Index Data file. And still further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii, and only the DOH could send notices to the section of the paper which was called “Health Bureau Statistics” (which is where Obama’s birth certificate appeared). And in 1961 the DOH only sent out birth notices for children born in Hawaii.
Only birther “experts”—who have not proved that they are really experts, and who certainly have not proved that they are fair and impartial say that there is anything wrong with the image of Obama’s birth certificate.
The birther “experts” include Paul Irey, who has repeatedly claimed that Obama did not attend Columbia College, despite the fact that Columbia University has stated that Obama did attend (and that he graduated). And they include Doug Vogt, who claims to have found the original altar of Abraham. It is such “experts” as these that the birthers rely on for their case.
There are many real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, including John Woodman, who happens to be a member of the Tea Party and who dislikes Obama and Obama’s policies, but shows that the birther “experts” are wrong. They also include Ivan Zatkovich, who was hired by WND to examine the image of Obama’s birth certificate, and when he submitted his report that there was nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.
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There are some video’ s out on Corsi’s research…here’s the book. I haven’t read the book, but thanks to you, I am putting it at the top of my list! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a7IFDfEGuk
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