Joyanna Adams

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Witch Burning Was BIG Business of the 14th Century

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Hold on…Before I write this: Let me say that my intention is not to offend any Catholics out there, but I wanted to report that I found out a few MORE things about the Catholic Church, which surprised even me…Witch burning, back in the fourteenth century, was big business.Witch burning

It was a very lucrative way to make money.

I didn’t know that, did you? (Always follow the money.)

(NOTE: Protestants believed in witches too, but did not have the witch execution record of the Catholic church. LET ME BE CLEAR: No one institution, person, or religion, has any kind of perfect record.)

In 1484, Pope Innocent VIII declared:

“It has come to Our ears that members of both sexes do not avoid to have intercourse with evil angels, incubi, and succubi, and that by their sorceries, and by their incantations, charms, and conjurations, they suffocate, extinguish, and cause to perish the births of women.”

And so began the torture and execution of women all over Europe.

The Pope was so intent on wiping out witches, he appointed two guys, Kramer and Spreger to write the Malleus Maleficarum. or as it was commonly known…the Hammer of Witches. It’s suppose to be one of the most atrocious books ever written as it explained how to torture, and murder.

(Not sure I want to read it.)Mallevs 2

All it took was somebody to accuse you of witchcraft, and you were a witch. But here’s something that they didn’t teach you in school about the inquisition:

It became a great way to make money.

“It quickly became an expense account scam. All cost of investigation, trail, and execution were borne by the accused or her relatives down to per diems for the private detectives hired to spy on her, wine for her guards, banquets for her judges, the travel expenses of a messenger sent to a more experienced torturer from another city, and the faggots, tar and hangman’s rope. Then there was a bonus to the members of the tribunal for each witch burned. The convicted witch’s remaining property, if any, was divided between Church and State. As this legally and morally sanctioned mass murder and theft became institutionalized, as a vast bureaucracy arose to serve it, attention was turned from poor hags and crones to the middle class and well- to- do of both sexes. ” The Demon Haunted World, Carl Sagan.

And the witches were made to turn in other witches. In England, which finders called “prickers” were paid a bounty for each girl they turned in for execution. One guy turned in 220 women in England and Scotland, for twenty shillings apiece.

Here in America, we had our own Salem Witch trial, of which my cousin Donna (the genealogist in the family) said one of our men ancestors was one of the men accused at Salem. (She loves to do all that research) Witch burning burning witches

But they let him off.  I never bothered to ask her his name, but he must have been a smooth talker.

The good news is the Catholic church got out of witch hunting. Nobody knows how many innocent people were killed, but it’s probably in the millions.

Now we have symbolic witch hunts. The last ‘witch’ hunt I remember was the McCarthy era, where he was accused of witch-hunting communists…

There seems to be a witch hunt for tea party people.  Good thing there’s no money to be made in it, or I would end up like my ancestors in Salem.

They don’t burn you at the stake anymore, but liberals do torture…every day.Pope Innocent

And some of them, claim to be very good Catholics.

The whole point is, all it took was one Pope to tell people to go get ‘witches.” and that’s what happens when you give ONE man too much power.

So…listen up Bill Gates. (Bill recently said he wished Obama had more power)

Obama doesn’t need anymore power.   One Pope Innocent was enough.

 

 

 

March 14, 2013 - Posted by | British, Catholic Church, Catholics, communism, Witch Hunt | , , ,

8 Comments »

  1. Interesting, but your title is incorrect. The date 1484 is in the 15th century.

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    Comment by cymonie1 | January 20, 2018 | Reply

  2. So you accept Mr. Sagan’s claim? Millions murdered? I’m not aware of any contemporary, credible historian who agrees with the esteemed scientist on this point, so I’d like to know your reason for accepting it. Since Mr. Sagan’s ability to narrate the history of Christianity accurately is dubious at best, as evidenced by his wild distortion of the murder of Hypatia, I cannot accept his claim without some independent corroboration.

    Amfortas’ remark about our inability to explain the medieval mind-set, while true, seems to be quite irrelevant, since the large-scale witch hunts were not a medieval phenomenon at all, but a modern one, a product of the Renaissance and the Reformation. This should be obvious, considering that the famous incident at Salem happened at the threshold of the Enlightened 18th century, and Innocent was a typical Renaissance pope. Witch-hunting is about as medieval as the Atlantic slave trade.

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    Comment by Johnny | May 21, 2013 | Reply

    • My reason for accepting his ‘opinions’ on the Witch hunting? He explains in his books, how he goes about coming to any conclusions on any subject: he uses the scientific method. (and he takes a whole chapter explaining that method.) And if you use that method than any hypothesis that does not muster examination gets thrown out. I trusted that the man read just about every book on the subject that he could…and he lists them at the end of his book. So yes, I choose to respect his opinion until I read further. Another reason that it seems plausible to me, is man’s pursuit of money. I had no idea until I read his reporting on the matter, that people could make money off the amount of witches they found. As for historical records, much of it is biased, and you have to always consider the source. I have researched Jesse James’s life and have found so many different versions of just one event, from so many different sources, sometimes it hard to find out what really happened. The best you can do is take everything into account and make an educated guess.

      Joyanna Adams

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      Comment by joyannaadams | May 21, 2013 | Reply

  3. It does not have to be an anti-Catholic treatis. We are talking of a period in history when stupidity held hands with cupidity. And we are still in it. Only the victims have changed.

    We can go right past the Salem Witch trials (which did not involve catholics or just women as far as I understand and you show) and come right up to today. Now we have accusation as automatic guilt with only men as the victims. And all with the connivance of the Holy Court system, bought and paid for by VAWA.

    In the UK ( I am not sure of the USA) a simple accusation of rape can ruin a man and the women gets paid ‘compensation’ from the public purse even before any trial is had or even a suspect arrested. When it is discovered that she made it up (tens of thousands of cases, well documented rather than your ‘millions guessed at, Joyanna)) she does not have to pay back a penny. Practically every divorce case these days is accompaied by a false accusation of ‘abuse’, often against the children, which is not even cross-examined. Evidence can be totally non-existent. Fathers can be separated from their children on the basis of ‘just in case’ and ‘probability’.

    600 to 200 years ago are a totally different world and we can all (Catholics as well as atheists, protestants, shopgirls, crocodile hunters and TV porn stars) look back with amazement and condemnation. Pointing fingers at this group or that way back then and carrying it forward as an underpinning for today’s bigotry does not do justice to your fine mind.

    No-one can give adequate explanation for the medaeval mind-set and nothing can be done to change the past anyway. But what of today’s witch-hunts?

    I ask again Joy … did you read that article I linked to the Quadrant a few days ago? I do wish you would acknowledge at least and write about it perhaps at best. Do you want to trawl through today’s Department of Justice statistics and count all the instances of false accusations by women against innocent men that condemns so many men and children to a living and present Hell?

    Perhaps you could also write about the witch hunt against people in Tasmania who seek some succor for the unborn. Here we are facing a terror which will see men jailed simply for wanting their wives to bear the child they are pregnant with.

    Every age has its Evil.

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    Comment by Amfortas | March 14, 2013 | Reply

    • Amfortas; The figure on “millions” of women who were burned in the witch hunt was from Carl Sagan’s book, p. 122, The Demon-Haunted World. (not from my mind, but his.) Likewise, the facts on the Catholic Inquisition, which is part of human history.It’s inmost Encyclopedias. By the way, the “millions” were witches burned, not women divorcing and damning men. Divorce was not so well done back in the middle ages. It happened.And I listed the Pope’s own words, and proof of a book written. Did the Catholics kill more witches than any one else? Probably. But who’s counting? As far as the whole feminists movement out to get the men…you know from my past articles that in my Nobody Opinion’s the whole business is atrocious. I should have mentioned it in this article, but I didn’t. To me, that subject is at least ten blogs. And since I deal mostly in politics, I don’t cover the social issue much as there are whole blogs out there dealing with it…like the ones that you have so courageously contributed too. Glad you brought it up. It’s much more serious than tea party people. My mind has been on politics lately. I have not read your Quadrant. My husband had surgery last week, and I have been ill lately. But I promise to get to it soon. I saw a correlation to the witch hunt of yesterday, today, because I do think that when any group of people are attacked, one should draw a correlation. And YOU did it too amfortas, by comparing the witch hunt of the feminist. So, you’re fine mind is on the same wave as mine! Sorrybout that!LOL! Joyanna Adams

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      Comment by joyannaadams | March 15, 2013 | Reply

      • I may be mixing my dates and times and places but I believe it actually was the Catholic Church … nothing like the sizzle of a Christian to delight a Caesar’s heart, or centuries later the tang of a roasting ‘witch’ to delight a good christian.

        Ergo: religion is fashion. Fashion that is harnessed by devout (means devious) men to further their own wealth and power. Nice, if you can get it …

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        Comment by Argus | March 16, 2013

    • “No-one can give adequate explanation for the medaeval mind-set” … I can.

      It’s all about money and power. Milking the superstitious is always an excellent means to wealth, pelf, lands and sex. A superstitious person will do anything if he thinks he’s serving ‘God’, and if that means burning their own mothers or eating their neighbours’ babies they’ll do it. Sometimes with a squeamish qualm but if the priest tells them to “Go forth and slay for gentle Jesus” then that’s exactly what they will do.

      As untasteful as the explanation may be, that’s it (whether you can accept it or not is entirely up to you). Good luck …

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      Comment by Argus | March 16, 2013 | Reply

      • Thanks Argus! That’s exactly the point Sagan was making in his book.

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